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Thin stone veneer vs full bed stone

Thin stone veneer is natural stone sawn to about an inch thick and set in mortar over lath and a scratch coat, so it needs no footing. Full bed stone is three to five inches deep, rests on a footing or ledge and ties back to the wall. Jones Legacy Stoneworks & Painting in Ossipee, NH installs natural stone veneer. Call or text Kevin Jones at (603) 581-5350.

Thin veneer
About an inch deep, held by mortar
Full bed stone
Three to five inches deep, on a footing
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Kevin Jones, Jones Legacy, Ossipee NH
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Granite fireplace stone going up against a concrete block backing inside a house under renovation, with string lines and a level hung in front

Two ways to put stone on a house

Full bed stone is the older way. Each stone is several inches deep, like a short building block, and the stones stack on one another from a footing or a ledge at the bottom. Metal ties set in the mortar joints hook the stone face back to the wall behind it so it can't lean away. There's usually an air gap between the stone and the house.

Thin veneer came later. The stone is sawn so the back is flat and only about an inch deep. Each piece gets buttered with mortar and pressed onto the wall, and the mortar bond holds it right where it is. Nothing is stacked on a footing. On a wood framed house, the wall gets a water barrier, metal lath and a scratch coat first.

  • Thin veneer: about an inch deep, sawn flat on the back, adhered with mortar
  • Full bed: roughly three to five inches deep, stacked and tied to the wall
  • Thin veneer: no footing
  • Full bed: needs a footing, a stone ledge on the foundation, or steel support

The footing question

This is usually what decides it. Full bed stone is heavy enough that it has to stand on something built to carry it. On a new house, the foundation can be poured with a ledge for stone. On a house that's already standing, adding full bed stone usually means digging along the wall and pouring a new footing, down below frost depth.

Thin veneer skips all of that. It's about a quarter of the weight of full bed by one quarry's figures, so it can go on an existing house, up a chimney chase, or around a deck post without changing anything underneath. That's a big reason thin veneer is so common on houses now.

How each one looks on the wall

Done well, you can't tell from the yard. Thin veneer comes with corner pieces, L shaped stones cut so one face wraps around the corner, and they make an outside corner look like a full stone. Window and door returns get the same treatment.

Full bed stone shows its depth in the details. A deep sill set into the stone, a wall that ends in a squared stone, an arch over a fireplace opening with real thickness to it. Thin veneer gets close on most of these with cut pieces. On a column like the one in the photo, round fieldstone faces look the same either way.

Round fieldstone faces fitted around a support column, under open floor joists

Where thin veneer makes sense

Thin veneer fits most work on houses that are already built, and anywhere weight is a problem.

  • Concrete foundations and the skirting under a house
  • Deck and porch posts, where there's nothing to stack stone on
  • Fireplace surrounds and walls inside, where weight on the floor matters
  • Chimney chases on a framed house
  • Upper walls and gable ends, well above any footing

Where full bed stone still earns its place

Full bed is worth the extra work in a few situations. And when it's used, the ties and the air gap matter. If the ties are skimpy or the gap fills up with mortar droppings, water behind the stone has nowhere to go. That's a fair thing to ask any mason about.

  • New homes where the foundation can be poured with a stone ledge from the start
  • Matching an older house that already has full depth stone
  • Masonry fireplaces built up from their own footing
  • Walls where deep sills, returns and arches need real stone depth

Yard walls are a different thing

Neither of these is how a stone wall in the yard gets built. A fieldstone wall, a retaining wall or a garden wall is solid stone all the way through, dry laid or mortared, with no house behind it.

Some people want stone on an existing concrete or block wall in the yard to get the look with less stone. That can be done, but the wall underneath still needs a footing below frost and a cap that keeps water out of the top.

Questions

How thick is thin stone veneer?

Natural thin veneer is sawn to about an inch thick, give or take depending on the stone. Full bed stone is usually three to five inches deep.

Does stone veneer need a footing?

Thin adhered veneer does not, because the mortar bond holds each piece to the wall. Full bed stone does, or a ledge or steel support built for its weight.

Can stone go on a house without a brick ledge?

Yes. That's what thin veneer is for. It adheres to the prepared wall instead of sitting on a ledge.

Is thin veneer real stone?

Natural thin veneer is real stone cut thin on the back. Manufactured stone is a concrete product, which the natural vs manufactured guide covers.

Which costs more, thin veneer or full bed stone?

It depends on the wall, but full bed on an existing house often means extra work underneath, like a new footing. Photos of the wall and the ground below it help Kevin give you a real answer.

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Not sure which one your wall needs?

Send Kevin a photo of the wall and the ground at the bottom of it. That usually settles the footing question.